CSIPASS,Puthiyara(A Fellowship of CSI Puthiyara Church members.(CALICUT(Kozhikode)-4,Kerala,South INDIA).This is a Registered SOCIAL SOCIETY ORGANIZATION under the Indian Societies Act, working for Social Justice,rights and benefits of church members and engaged in Social Work. We are not against any Laymen,Bishops,Priests or Church workers.But we are here to expose the people who give disregard to the Laws of the Land.
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Tuesday, May 3, 2011
ARTICLE OF CSIPASS PRESIDENT- PUBLISHED IN 'ALMAYA JWALA'(Organ of CSINKLF)
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Article is excellent.But what is your plan to remove this bishop? He is not going to change his mind even if you write hundreds of articles or conducting dharnas.He is in the iron hands of outside mafias.It is sure.
we are talking and talking about corruption and misappropriations. But let me ask you, have any one of us ever seen the CSI-TRUST ASSOCIATION registered as per COMPANIES ACT by-law??
these people has all powers to do what ever they wants. We fools pay church tax and contribute to make them wealth.
Just simply wasting time, just ignore these fools. and one more thing, i read the article written my CSIPASS President. if the property is registered in CSITA name, FORGET about it. its gone. no mercy will be there if u say we bought the land and we built the church. even the court looks into who's name its been registered and who's property is it.
we are depending on man made courts and that courts has limitations. but court in heaven is PERFECT and HE will make you pay for every wrong we do.
But 99.99% of out vicars and Bishops thinks "that we will face when it comes." I know it and i have heard from a Vicar whom i know personally.
So, please don't simply boil your blood and waste your precious time. If you can man handle these crooks, may be they will act good. else, these things will go on and on.
What you wrote is absolutely true Mr.clifford.They are not going to call the diocesan council and conduct elections.Bishop will send somebody to court to get a stay for election.This will go on and on as you said.They will clean up all our properties within this time with the help of synod. Bishop may get extension for another five years after his bishopric period and retirement.If you have money you can also live like this.Poor people still believe that bishop 'believes in GOD'.
who is this clifford?He thinks that others are fools.How dare he writes against the Bishop thirumeni.The Bishops are appointed by GOD and not by people.You are not supposed to criticize them.The GOD will punish you. This clifford is a well known vicar of this diocese.Bishop may find out this vicar and punish him.All the vicars are working against our Bishop and this practice must be viewed very seriously.This is my pray to bishop.
I hope you are not a 120 years old person or least 80 years old. People are going to and coming from moon and soon there will be tours conducted to moon and at this age you say that Bishop is appointed by GOD??
Are you living in this universe or somewhere else?? I am not blaming you. These priests have carved these kinds of thoughts in our mind and blood. These Vicars, Bishop, Moderator, Arch Bishop etc. are ornamental positions made by man for their survival purposes. Man made laws, man made costumes, and man made codes are followed here on this earth. We are still following the old customs in the case of vicars, Bishop etc. They will not follow Jesus Christ because in that case then there will be no vicars, bishop etc. Jesus never told his disciples to go to seminary, study theology, get ordained and become vicar, then bishop or then moderator. Instead, HE said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; So, you, I and everyone who believes in Jesus Christ whole heartedly is a VICAR, BISHOP or MODERATOR (one can choose what to be called.)
Here in our society, these vicars and bishops are just doing a JOB/PROFESSION to satisfy their stomach. How many of the vicars in CSI can you point out to have saved a soul?? How many of CSI vicars do the GOSPEL among people of other religions? How many of the vicars talk about Jesus to other people?? They are COWARDS. If you point a knife at them and tell them to disown Jesus Christ, they will be the first to do so. I remember that last bishop was trembling when passing through a troubled area where some political parties were having fight in Kannur area.
Now, it is proved beyond doubts that this Mr.Cliffard is a vicar.I am so happy to see with pride that we have at least one achan in our diocese to stand and talk firmly in favor of JESUS CHRIST. Mr.Rajan has stated that all the vicars are attacking the Bishop.Why it is? So there is something wrong at Bishop's part some where.Isn't it? One criminal case is pending against the Bishop registered by my church members.Is it the reason?
My dear Cliforrd, If you are a vicar please hear me. In Gujarath there is a tribal community by name chovas.They still believe strongly that the prime minister of India is Mrs.Indira Gandhi.They are living without any modern facilities for information and communication.What the leader(moopen)says they believe. When you try to correct them they will come as a group and attack you.Because they have no proper education and proper care. In Kerala another tribal group is there who believe that Late.Mr.Jayan(famous film actor)is still alive.The old actress Jayabharathi is still acting as heroine in malayalam films. I used these two examples to make you understand in a jovial way.But what I wrote is a fact.Number of 'chovas' are alive in our vicar community.They support the feudal system now available in our diocese adopted by bishop kuruvila. In our Basel Mission community still few believers are similar like these tribal people. It is very easy to cheat our brothers by using the cassock. I may request you to please educate your members in your own parish so that the growing generation may show the positive tendency towards the change.It is a difficult task.
It may be a vicar.But what is the net result.Vicars are running after power and ready to do any nasty job to get money.In my church the vicars swallowed the festival fund.In a reply the bishop warned us for sending false complaints without listening what is written. How can the sincere vicar survive.He also will try to steal money.
It is not fair at your end to put blames on all the vicars.Most of the CSI vicars are seems to be good.Priest live with the salaries are model to others.But 'I scratch your back,You scratch my back'policy may help some of them to make wealth.
What Mr. Clifford wrote is correct. not even a single vicar is doing gospel among other religion. they are afraid but teaches us to not to be afraid. not a vicar in CSI saved a soul. they are spoiling souls of csi members. CONGRATULATIONS Mr. Clifford.
Why you people are so angry with priests.Today it has become a job.Priest have to satisfy our supreme official.So for existence priests have to adjust here and there.
14 comments:
Article is excellent.But what is your plan to remove this bishop? He is not going to change his mind even if you write hundreds of articles or conducting dharnas.He is in the iron hands of outside mafias.It is sure.
Good language and critic.Do you believe the Synod and their promises? May God bless you.
we are talking and talking about corruption and misappropriations. But let me ask you, have any one of us ever seen the CSI-TRUST ASSOCIATION registered as per COMPANIES ACT by-law??
these people has all powers to do what ever they wants. We fools pay church tax and contribute to make them wealth.
Just simply wasting time, just ignore these fools. and one more thing, i read the article written my CSIPASS President. if the property is registered in CSITA name, FORGET about it. its gone. no mercy will be there if u say we bought the land and we built the church. even the court looks into who's name its been registered and who's property is it.
we are depending on man made courts and that courts has limitations. but court in heaven is PERFECT and HE will make you pay for every wrong we do.
But 99.99% of out vicars and Bishops thinks "that we will face when it comes." I know it and i have heard from a Vicar whom i know personally.
So, please don't simply boil your blood and waste your precious time. If you can man handle these crooks, may be they will act good. else, these things will go on and on.
Read this blog: http://deepastambam.blogspot.com/
What you wrote is absolutely true Mr.clifford.They are not going to call the diocesan council and conduct elections.Bishop will send somebody to court to get a stay for election.This will go on and on as you said.They will clean up all our properties within this time with the help of synod.
Bishop may get extension for another five years after his bishopric period and retirement.If you have money you can also live like this.Poor people still believe that bishop 'believes in GOD'.
who is this clifford?He thinks that others are fools.How dare he writes against the Bishop thirumeni.The Bishops are appointed by GOD and not by people.You are not supposed to criticize them.The GOD will punish you.
This clifford is a well known vicar of this diocese.Bishop may find out this vicar and punish him.All the vicars are working against our Bishop and this practice must be viewed very seriously.This is my pray to bishop.
Dear Brother P. Clement Rajan,
I hope you are not a 120 years old person or least 80 years old. People are going to and coming from moon and soon there will be tours conducted to moon and at this age you say that Bishop is appointed by GOD??
Are you living in this universe or somewhere else?? I am not blaming you. These priests have carved these kinds of thoughts in our mind and blood. These Vicars, Bishop, Moderator, Arch Bishop etc. are ornamental positions made by man for their survival purposes. Man made laws, man made costumes, and man made codes are followed here on this earth. We are still following the old customs in the case of vicars, Bishop etc. They will not follow Jesus Christ because in that case then there will be no vicars, bishop etc. Jesus never told his disciples to go to seminary, study theology, get ordained and become vicar, then bishop or then moderator. Instead, HE said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
So, you, I and everyone who believes in Jesus Christ whole heartedly is a VICAR, BISHOP or MODERATOR (one can choose what to be called.)
Here in our society, these vicars and bishops are just doing a JOB/PROFESSION to satisfy their stomach. How many of the vicars in CSI can you point out to have saved a soul?? How many of CSI vicars do the GOSPEL among people of other religions? How many of the vicars talk about Jesus to other people?? They are COWARDS. If you point a knife at them and tell them to disown Jesus Christ, they will be the first to do so. I remember that last bishop was trembling when passing through a troubled area where some political parties were having fight in Kannur area.
Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Now, it is proved beyond doubts that this Mr.Cliffard is a vicar.I am so happy to see with pride that we have at least one achan in our diocese to stand and talk firmly in favor of JESUS CHRIST.
Mr.Rajan has stated that all the vicars are attacking the Bishop.Why it is? So there is something wrong at Bishop's part some where.Isn't it?
One criminal case is pending against the Bishop registered by my church members.Is it the reason?
My dear Cliforrd,
If you are a vicar please hear me.
In Gujarath there is a tribal community by name chovas.They still believe strongly that the prime minister of India is Mrs.Indira Gandhi.They are living without any modern facilities for information and communication.What the leader(moopen)says they believe. When you try to correct them they will come as a group and attack you.Because they have no proper education and proper care.
In Kerala another tribal group is there who believe that Late.Mr.Jayan(famous film actor)is still alive.The old actress Jayabharathi is still acting as heroine in malayalam films.
I used these two examples to make you understand in a jovial way.But what I wrote is a fact.Number of 'chovas' are alive in our vicar community.They support the feudal system now available in our diocese adopted by bishop kuruvila.
In our Basel Mission community still few believers are similar like these tribal people.
It is very easy to cheat our brothers by using the cassock.
I may request you to please educate your members in your own parish so that the growing generation may show the positive tendency towards the change.It is a difficult task.
It may be a vicar.But what is the net result.Vicars are running after power and ready to do any nasty job to get money.In my church the vicars swallowed the festival fund.In a reply the bishop warned us for sending false complaints without listening what is written.
How can the sincere vicar survive.He also will try to steal money.
It is not fair at your end to put blames on all the vicars.Most of the CSI vicars are seems to be good.Priest live with the salaries are model to others.But 'I scratch your back,You scratch my back'policy may help some of them to make wealth.
What Mr. Clifford wrote is correct. not even a single vicar is doing gospel among other religion. they are afraid but teaches us to not to be afraid. not a vicar in CSI saved a soul. they are spoiling souls of csi members. CONGRATULATIONS Mr. Clifford.
Why you people are so angry with priests.Today it has become a job.Priest have to satisfy our supreme official.So for existence priests have to adjust here and there.
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